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Well down under we have just passed mid winter and it is very cold in Melbourne. Today the mercury will only reach 16 and on the weekend they predict 14. Way too cold!

Stitch

PS Take me to the Canary Islands PLEASE!

16? 14? Too cold???????????

Thats a warm spring day here lol

StitchExp626 wrote:Well down under we have just passed mid winter and it is very cold in Melbourne. Today the mercury will only reach 16 and on the weekend they predict 14. Way too cold!

Stitch

PS Take me to the Canary Islands PLEASE!

Stitch,

My dad (92 yrs old) often tells the story of when during WWII, he flew to Australia for some R&R.

He (wrongly) assumed July was the summer months (like New York) and only packed his army summer wear. He said he froze his arse off! I know he had a great time

During WW II there were lots of American soldiers in Australia.

By 1944 the New Guinea campaign was finally becoming an American operation. 500,000 American servicemen were in Australia, and both governments contemplated banning American-Australian marriages. Eventually 12,000 Australian women married Americans.

Source:http://worldwar2database.com/html/australia.htm

And the total population of Australia at that time was 7 million, so 1/2 a million American troops made an indelible impact on Australia.

Say g'day to your Dad from down under!

Stitch said:

And the total population of Australia at that time was 7 million, so 1/2 a million American troops made an indelible impact on Australia.

By that you mean one of the American soldiers is your dad, don't you?

tracker wrote: He said he froze his arse off! I know he had a great time

Tracker, have you gone all international on us?...you know it is pronounced "ass" on this side of the pond!
Next thing you know you'll be confusing your friends when you tell them on a hot South Carolina day: "Boy, it's hot as hell out there...must be 35 degrees!"

MyStarbuckHatesLost wrote:

tracker wrote: He said he froze his arse off! I know he had a great time

Tracker, have you gone all international on us?...you know it is pronounced "ass" on this side of the pond!
Next thing you know you'll be confusing your friends when you tell them on a hot South Carolina day: "Boy, it's hot as hell out there...must be 35 degrees!"

MSHL... I'm learning a whole new language from my Brit and Australian brothers and sisters. I'm spelling words with "Z's" with "S's' " I started pronouncing the "H" in Herbs. After yelling at the driver who cut me off yeterday, my wife asked me what a "wanker" was? I told her it was a bad driver. She's been muttering the word ever since. I better tell her some day.

MyStarbuckHatesLost wrote:

Igs wrote:Resolved: Ben's ultimate end will be a just and virtuous end.

Question IGS,
How does one define "just and Virtuous?" Good and virtuous for whom? Need a more concrete question like "Will Ben's ultimate goal end in the death of the Losties? or something like that

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Hey Starbucks, sorry I missed your post -- this is a very delayed response. To be honest, after typing out my debate topic, I realized that I should have ditched one of the two terms "just" and "virtuous".

But on the flip side, I like keeping one of these terms (i.e. "just") because I think it adds depth to the discussion. As I pointed out in my post, not only would one be required to establish (for example) that Ben's goal is the death of the Losties but then a poster would also have to justify/attack that goal in the context of the Lost world.

The question of "just for whom" would be a question our posters would have to address. Just for the world at large, the Losties, the Others, the Hostiles, etc. I think that is interesting and would lead, perhaps, to real insights re: the show.

For me, the far more interesting debate is not simply: is Ben plotting to kill the Losties? But rather, may Ben's plot (if it involves the death of the Losties) actually be laudable (i.e. Ben saves the world by sacrificing the Losties).

I get my proposed resolve (or any debate topic I would likely propose) will tend to lack the concreteness of a debate topic such as the one you recommend, and that, for many, makes it far less appealing.

But besides the characters themselves, Lost is a show driven by themes (good vs. evil, fate vs. free fill, empiricism vs. spiritualism/mysticism). So I would like to see the debates touch upon these themes -- require debaters to deal with, at some level, the underlying questions being asked by the show.

Guys, have we lost Hope?

Hope's on holiday

As long as there's still Hope

I am sure the debate will happen soon, I am really hoping to hear the debating skills of HSM.

Bring it on ... soon!

Thanks Stitch but actually I need to get back into the flow of things. I've been on holiday from Thursday to Thursday and then I got Super Smash Bros Brawl so... Well you know, It's very addictive.

The New Look HSM!

That said it is time for the debate to happen!

Wrong Stitch.

I'm more of a


Kinda guy.

Ummm, hey this is Dave, Hopes husband. Hope is really sorry that she hasn't been around but she broke her back in a horrible car accident. She feels bad that she hasn't been on here in a long time.

She is on the mend and will be back to kick butt soon but understands if you guys want to move on.

Dave,

That is very sad news to hear. Please pass on my own thoughts and well wishes to Hope. I am sure that I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say that she will be in our thoughts and prayers. Tell her that we all hope that she has a fast and full recovery from the accident.

Thanks for letting us know.

Stitch

Thank you Dave, for telling us.

I'm sure everyone here will be hoping for a speedy recovery. That really came as a shock to me as I read it.

I don't mind as long as it takes to wait for an official debate. We could have an unofficial debate in the mean time.

Best Wishes, Ben

Dave, I was very sorry to hear about Hopes' accident. I would like to add my best wishes for a full and speedy recovery.

Hope,

Dave, I'm very sorry to hear that. I hope she has a speedy recovery.

Thank you very much for letting us know Dave, please tell Hope that she remains in our thoughts and I wish her a speedy recovery. We will be here when she is better.

*big hugs* xxxxxx

Wow, that is very bad news to hear. I hope for a speedy and smooth recovery. Thank you for letting us know.

No matter how long it takes, she will still be "champ" until someone dethrones her.

You guys are all very kind. I let her know about your well wishes and she was so happy to know you guys care. You are all a second family to her. Thank you all very much.

Sorry to read this news,Dave.My thoughts and best wishes are with you guys.